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Brian Barrett: Vision Pro.
Zoe Schiffer:Vision Pro. Thank you very much.
Brian Barrett:Don’t you think about Vision Pro every day?
Zoe Schiffer: No, I must say he lived and died very quickly, and I haven’t thought about it since. But I think the problem is, and this has been true for other AI devices, like the famous pin from Humane AI and all that. There are many things that are best done on screen, and I don’t think that will change. However, if you can get agents and a voice mode that works really well, there are other things you can actually ask an agent to do for you, and you might prefer not to look at the screen all the time. And so personally, as someone who has a very tortured relationship with my screen, I’m ready for something that could work a little better. But it’s hard to get right, and I don’t think we’ve seen a product yet that can do it. To explain a little more what we’re talking about, OpenAI hired more than 400 former Apple employees, according to the lawsuit.
Leah Weiger: amazing.
Zoe Schiffer: And last year, it paid $6.5 billion to acquire a startup called IO Products that was co-founded by longtime Apple executives, including Tan, Scott Cannon, Evans Haneke and, most famously, Jony Ive.
Brian Barrett: Yeah, it’s a huge investment they’re making in this space, and losing all these people is obviously painful for Apple. Plus, they’ve lost AI researchers to other companies as well. It’s the AI talent that Apple is struggling with, and now the hardware talent as well, that really hits them where it hurts. What excites me most about this whole process is that we’re not there yet, which is that lawsuits mean discovery, and…
Zoe Schiffer: Yay.
Brian Barrett: Yay, discovery, yay. The discovery means we’ll be able to read a lot of emails from these companies talking about each other and themselves. This will be a joy. It’s always a joy when these things happen.
Zoe Schiffer: It’s very fun. There is no one more spiteful than a lawyer handling an intellectual property case.
Brian Barrett:Put this on the cup, Zoe.
Zoe Schiffer:Hmm.
Brian Barrett: amazing. Do we have merchandise yet? Could it be that —
Zoe Schiffer: I love him.
Brian Barrett: These are our goods. Yes.
Zoe Schiffer: These are our goods.
Brian Barrett: OpenAI’s problems aren’t limited to just the lawsuit Apple filed this week. WIRED has learned that OpenAI employees are funding a rival political action committee to advocate for tighter regulations surrounding Frontier AI Labs. It’s a competitor, of course, to all the money that people like Greg Brockman, CEO of OpenAI, and others have invested in promoting AI and closing down guardrails. This new Super PAC is called the Guardrails Alliance, and it is attractive. It was launched last month.
