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Last year, I received a subliminal mandate telegram from the powers that be in indie rock: I was supposed to love geese. The Brooklyn guys make good music, but are they the saviors of rock ‘n’ roll, the defining rock band of Generation Z, the second coming of The Strokes?
The hype around the band He will suggest it. After their album “Getting Killed” was released in September, so was the band inevitable If you’re the type of person who refers to concerts as “shows.” When team captain Cameron Winter played the role “Sold out” At Carnegie Hall, the audience seemed convinced that they would be able to look back on that night fifty years later and tell their grandchildren that they had witnessed a seminal moment in the history of American music—the birth of the next Bob Dylan. How can anyone live up to the hype?
For this reason, when Wired reported That Jez’s popularity was just a psychological flaw, I felt vindicated – I was right! I knew! I was smarter than everyone because I only enjoyed the geese casually!
But it’s never that simple. The real story is that Jez worked with a marketing company called Messy goodwhich creates thousands of social media accounts designed to manufacture trends on behalf of its clients, which also includes TikTok favorites Alex Warren and Zara Larsson. The revelation has inspired a range of reactions, from feelings of betrayal to confusion as to why anyone would be upset about a band doing marketing, which is something bands naturally do.
“On TikTok, it’s really easy to get views. All you have to do is post popular tracks. But artists can’t do that, because they want to promote their own music,” Andrew Spielman, co-founder of Chaotic Good, explained in a recent interview. interview With plate. “So a big part of what we do is spread enough volume across enough accounts with enough impressions to try to emulate the idea that the song is trending or moving.”
When you learn how widespread these marketing strategies are, you’ll feel like a kid who’s just learned that the Tooth Fairy isn’t real — maybe you had a hunch that something was up, but you want to believe in the fantasy that a fluttering parasite is creeping into your room, and every viral success story is a fantasy.
It’s not just the music industry that benefits from this marketing strategy – young startup founders are following the same playbook.
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While preparing for an interview with Gen Z fashion app founders ViaI dug into TikTok to see what real people are saying about the app. I’ve found videos that repeat the same talking points about how Bill Gates’ daughter created an app that helps you save money on luxury purchases, or how using Phia is like having a personal shopping assistant who wants you to get the best deals. When I clicked on these accounts, I found that many of them only posted videos about Phia.
It’s not like I caught Phia in a “gotcha” moment. Founders Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kiani aren’t trying to hide their social media strategy — just that How marketing works now.
“One of the things we’ve been trying lately is basically running a creator farm, so we have a ton of different college students that we pay to make videos about Phia on their own accounts,” Kiani said. He said On her podcast. “This is a really volume-focused approach. We have about a dozen creators, posting twice a day, and we end up at about 600 videos in total.”
In feeds similar to TikTok, people watch videos in a vacuum, separate from the rest of the creator’s account. Few viewers will stop to look at what this person is posting, so they won’t suspect that the post about this cool new app might be an inorganic promotion.
Likewise, content creators will pay armies of teens on Discord to make clips from their streams and post them en masse.
“This has been going on for some time,” said Eric Wei, co-founder of Karat Financial TechCrunch said last year. “Drake does it. A lot of the biggest creators and streamers in the world have done it – Kay Senat (One of the top streamers on Twitch) did just that – he had millions of impressions… If it’s determined algorithmically, suddenly the cut makes sense, because it could come from any random account that just has really good clips.
Marketing companies like Chaotic Good apply the same approach — instead of paying college students or teenage fans to create videos, they buy hundreds of iPhones and create a host of social media accounts that they can use to manufacture a viral trend. Spellman told Billboard that Chaotic Good’s office is “full of iPhones,” and that they have so many phones that they’re treated like VIPs at Verizon.
“Unfortunately, a lot of the internet is manipulation… everything on the internet is fake. The one thing we always say is that all opinions are formed in the TikTok comments,” noted Jesse Koren, co-founder of Chaotic Good.
This is the same line of thinking that feeds Dead internet theorywhich sees bot-generated content dominating the web.
If Chaotic Good’s content armies aren’t posting trending podcasts, they’re commenting on posts about the company’s clients to control the narrative. Instead of waiting to see how fans respond to a new song, they can use their accounts to flood comments on videos and talk about how much they love the song.
For geese, being called a manufacturing plant is an insult. After songwriter Eliza McLamb Wrote this blog Which first linked Geese to Chaotic Good, the company removed the reference to Geese and “narrative campaigns” from its website. (The company told Wired that it did this to protect artists from being “involved in false accusations or misconceptions about how their music is discovered.”)
But like the overt marketing behind some Gen Z startups, global girl group Katseye has been incredibly clear that they’re the definition of the mills of the industry — there’s literally a Netflix docuseries, “Pop Star Academy“, showing how a room full of global executives turned these six young women into stars, even pitting would-be members against each other in a surprising K-pop-style survival show.
I watched “Pop Star Academy” when it came out in horror — HYBE and Geffen treated aspiring teen pop stars like cattle to pose as human billboards they could use to sell. Irion Juices and Hair serum. But over the course of the eight-episode series, I became deeply interested in the lives of these girls. I wanted to watch them thrive in the face of relentless industry pressures.
I’m sure this is exactly what Katsi’s management wanted from the documentary — developing a strong sense of support and advocacy for the girls, even if it meant portraying the executives themselves as the villains. A few years later, Katseye performs a song called “My contract” at the Grammy Awards — a track that fans initially hated, until suddenly they didn’t.
It’s hard not to think of Chaotic Good’s “narrative campaigns,” which flood comment sections to control discourse. Although I hated “Gnarly” when it came out, over time I’ve decided that it is actually an avant-garde masterpiece. Have I changed my opinion of myself or has it changed for me? Although I pride myself on countering the hype around Geese, I’m so immersed in Katseye that I’ve spent hours musing on Reddit forums about the real story behind it. Manon gap.
Geese may be a psychological corporation, and Katseye may be an industrial factory, but do we really care?
This is not a rhetorical question. The goose talk (which could also be manufactured, now that I think about it!) has inspired diverse responses because we have not established clear social norms about what is necessary marketing and what is a false growth hack.
We, the fans, have to decide now where we draw the line.