The California Forensic reporter Razhi prompts debate about transcription


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Courtroom in the Supreme Court of San Diego County in San Diego on October 9, 2023. Photo from Adriana walk, Calmatters

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Ashley Pasan believed there was a strong case as she sought a restrictive order against her ex -husband.

She claims that she had proof that she had hurt her and had a nanny nanny footage, which she claimed to have shown him to be beating her passion. But the San Diego District Court Commissioner declined to recognize the video staff as evidence and ruled that her claims for abuse were not reliable.

She wanted to appeal the decision, but no lawyer would represent her because no one had transcribed her court hearing. Court reporters were simply not available to all its court dates. Without a written record, “makes it practically impossible to win an appeal,” a lawyer told her.

This is a common phenomenon in California. As of 2023, more than 1.7 million family law, order restriction, will and other civil proceedings have not had written transcripts, According to California’s court branchS

This is because there is a shortage of certified court reporters. When reporters are not available, state legislation, With a few exceptionsProhibit a record in the courtrooms, although many courts have recording devices. The availability of a record will give the parties in a legal dispute the possibility of a later hearing transcribed by a certified professional.

“It’s absolute outrage (if) it’s so easy to know, turning a switch and be able to save,” Passan said.

Non -profit legal aid groups filed a petition at the end of last year, calling on the California Supreme Court to overturns a ban on record of cases as Pasheen.

Petitioners claim that the constitutional rights of Californians for appeal are being violated and the prohibition of recording in the courtrooms creates a “two -tier” system of justice. Wealthy litigation, the petitioners say, have the opportunity to hire private court reporters to sit on their hearing and to introduce a written record. But people who cannot afford more than $ 3,000 a day to hire a contract reporter are at the mercy of a short -term judicial system.

Most states and federal courts use recording technology more than California, some exceptionally instead of court reporters. Only Texas and New York limit technology to the extent that California is doing, according to the California Judicial Council.

Now, with the state The Supreme Court’s decision in anticipationThe unions representing court reporters have called on the court to defend the prohibition of recording. At the same time, the Union insists on legislation that will temporarily allow recording in cases such as Paschen. If it passes, this may contradict the court’s ruling.

And critics say the Union’s bill can make the problem worse.

Influential Seiu insists on Bill

San Mateo’s democratic assembly Diane Boards Assembly Bill 882 It will cancel the ban on civil cases for three years to give the courts time to hire more reporters and relieve shortages.

“This bill is for access to justice,” Papan told his colleagues on the installation floor At the beginning of this month. “This will ensure that a civil proceedings is available when a lawsuit cannot afford to hire a court reporter.”

Papan did not return the interview requests; No representative of lobbying the most influential labor organization behind the bill, the International Union of Service Employees. Seiu has donated at least $ 62,300 per papan since 2021, according to Calmatters. ” Database of digital democracyS

Critics claim that unions put so many restrictions on Papan’s measure that it does not go almost enough to solve the problem – and can even make it difficult to involve a recorder in the courtroom.

The proposal will require parties in a case that cannot afford to keep a private court reporter to request a written record at least a day before hearing, an option for which those without a lawyer are unlikely to know.

Court reporters could also refuse a task in another courtroom, even if it was in the same building. For example, a court reporter located in a family court room will not be required to cover a criminal process, even if the lack of a court reporter will lead to the rejection of the case.

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Assembly Member Diane Papan at a committee hearing in the capitol cradle space on September 18, 2024. Photo of Miguel Gutierrez -Jr., Calmatters

The larger versions of the bill that easily passed the meeting this month, there were more restrictions, including banning courts from buying or leasing recording equipment.

Unions, which represent court reporters who have accepted a court record, adopted first, have fought previous legislative efforts to expand the use of technology. In 2023, the unions were able to kill Bill which would allow recording in all civil proceedings.

If accepted, legal aid groups would not have to ask the California Supreme Court to resolve the issue. In a brief opposition to the pending case of the Supreme Court, SEIU and other judicial unions, the Supreme Court is not the right place and that the legislature and court courts are working to solve the problem.

The judicial reporter is the dispute is the last example of the political power of the unions of the legislature in the legislature.

As CalMatters reportedorganized work, which represents about one sixth From the workforce of the state, it regularly makes its way to higher rates than other fruitful lobbying groups, partly because of the mass political expenses by the unions.

Seiu is one of the most influential unions. Since 2015, SEIU and its affiliates have donated at least $ 20.6 million to members of the legislature, according to the Digital Democracy database.

“The Union representing court reporters is a particularly effective union in the protection of their interests,” said Clark KelsoProfessor at the University of Pacific McGerge.

Despite the good pay, the positions remain unfilled

Judicial reporters claim that since they guarantee that their transcripts are 100% accurate, they are the only method of guaranteeing anyone losing a case because something that is said during hearing is recorded wrong.

Court reporters can ask a witness to speak, slow down, or repeat his words if it is difficult to understand. Without human beings to do this, transcripts can be incomplete or inaccurate, say the proponents of the bill.

“California state requires justice to be fair and accurate,” Stacey Gaskil, a court reporter from San Mateo County, Before the Assembly Committee of the Judiciary in AprilS “This can only be fulfilled if the court records are verbally and completed.” She said the court reporters were held to such high standards that they could be charged with a crime for verifying inaccurate transcripts.

Although most agree that the human court reporters are the gold standard, those who insist on an extended record in the courtrooms claim that there are not enough new court reporters to compensate for the number of retired workers – a problem causing pulsation effects throughout the judiciary. About 4,600 court reporters have been licensed in California, most of which are not court officials. This is from 7500 in 2010. About half of them were entitled to retirement in 2023, according to the latest available statistics from the court branch.

The most serious cases, as criminal proceedings, receive a priority for a court reporter, leaving other hearing without a written record on the busy days. Almost all major civil cases in California go without one; More than half of all cases of family law and will have no reporter, according to the court branch.

“The inability to create verbatim records restricts people’s ability to appeal significant and life -changing decisions on the retaining of children, paternity, assets of conservatives and others,” the court branch He tells his websiteS

Legal organizations that have filed a request to the Supreme Court claim that it is often not known whether reporters are available until the day of hearing. This forces the lawyers and their clients to decide to delay their cases or to take a risk not to need a written record during appeal.

“Even when continuation is a viable choice, it can be repeated, extracted production for many months or even years,” the Baylegal group wrote in the petition.

The shortage comes despite the approval of the $ 30 million legislature to lure new rent for well -paid work.

The average payment with a California court reporter is over $ 200,000, according to the court branch. Plus, by law, the transcripts of hearing must be purchased by court reporters who are receiving to reserve the money. In the last fiscal year, the courts in California have spent $ 23.7 million, paying court reporters for transcripts, according to the court branch.

But even with the financial advantages of the work, the courts are struggling to hire. The Los Angeles Supreme Court offers a $ 50,000 signing bonus and a $ 25,000 Finder fee for court officials targeting a court reporter. Despite the incentives, LA County has 106 free court reports, According to an online control panel The Supreme Court created to emphasize the problem.

The hiring is intensified throughout the country, but the courts still need approximately 428 new full -time court reporters to catch up, to catch up, According to a state control panelS

Can AI replace court reporters?

It is hardly surprising that the courts are struggling to find enough reporters, said Lorin Klein, director of the intercession of the California Legal Aid Association, one of the groups insisting on the expansion of the use of records in the courtrooms.

Klein said the foreign reporters are likely to make more money by working as private contractors, and the younger candidates may admit that artificial intelligence transcription technology can replace their work in a few years.

“Not only is it a profession with a potentially dubious future because of technology,” said Klein, “Working in the court itself is not necessarily the first job that the judicial reporter wants to receive because it can earn more money working elsewhere.”

Neither the petition before the Supreme Court nor the bill temporarily authorizes more records, relate to AI transcription software. So far, the immediate future, in order to appeal a case, a copy of a recorded hearing must be prepared by a professional.

Some experts say that AI is not the answer to the shortage of a court reporter – and it will never be.

“People just make a language imperfect all the time and in unpredictable ways … and make mistakes,” said Nicole HolidayAssistant Professor of Linguistics at UC Berkeley. “But this is where they have the advantage over any automated system: they can pause and ask for clarification. They can improve their training.”

She said AI transcription systems were trained to rewrite speech based on how English is spoken by a subset of the population, which is usually white and wealthy. The software is not even close to accurate for the various accents spoken in America today, Holiday said.

Others see the promise that technology is improving and if it is located responsibly, including Camel stolendenExecutive Director of the UC Berkeley Information Technology Research Center in the interest of the society and the Banao Institute.

She called the technology “potentially transformative to the judiciary”, giving poor people the same access to justice while achieving “any cost savings”.

“I know the Union does not want to hear that,” she said. “But for the courts in general, this seems like a positive result.”

This article was Originally Published on CalMatters and was reissued under Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Noderivatives License.

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